The worlds of acting and music have been intertwined for as long as they’ve existed. High time we made this an episode theme! With music as our through-line, join us and guest Carl Bishop as we as we hear his amazing journey from drummer to opera singer to radio DJ to voice artist back to drummer again. Plus! We present musical submissions from our three finalists for the Katherine Heller jingle contest! (Spoiler alert: one’s from a former host of the podcast) Later, we explore a serious question: how does the industry’s lingering, unfortunate reputation as a boys club affect gay actors? And, finally, Kieran turns the tables on Dan during our Fishing for Tips segment.